tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7495382709151625398.post7863135354826577664..comments2024-02-09T16:13:32.416-08:00Comments on Classical Carousel: Out Of Your Car, Off Your Horse by Wendell BerryCleohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13152128642971612433noreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7495382709151625398.post-24353546173459896512016-03-01T14:07:35.897-08:002016-03-01T14:07:35.897-08:00Oh, I forgot to say, if you haven't seen his C...Oh, I forgot to say, if you haven't seen his Chrisitanity and the Survival of Creation, that might interest you too. It's a great essay. Here's the link to my post: http://cleoclassical.blogspot.ca/2015/04/christianity-and-survival-of-creation.html I'm so surprised but it's about my number 3 all-time most viewed post. Wow! Who'da thought?! :-)Cleohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13152128642971612433noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7495382709151625398.post-80826022247673184082016-03-01T14:05:08.993-08:002016-03-01T14:05:08.993-08:00Berry is awesome. I'm so glad that I found hi...Berry is awesome. I'm so glad that I found him. I must read "What's Wrong With the World". I never read as much Chesterton as I want. I think most of the news, in the way it's presented, makes us feel helpless, or even worse, useless. I don't think we realize the power we have by just doing what we can do around us. I haven't read much of Schmemann yet, but from what I have read, I'm very impressed. I love, not only thinkers, but sensible thinkers. Share away, Carol, and thanks for visiting!Cleohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13152128642971612433noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7495382709151625398.post-28782374225647129882016-03-01T06:38:48.932-08:002016-03-01T06:38:48.932-08:00This is the most exciting thing I've read in a...This is the most exciting thing I've read in a long time. Thanks for bringing Wendell Berry's "essay" to my attention. I will definitely put it on my reading list. It seems to correspond in a lot of way with a favorite of mine" "What's Wrong With the World?" by G.K. Chesterton. These ideas excite me because I think they offer real solutions for horrible problems of our hurting world, thinks that I can actually do. The Alexander Schmemann quote is wonderful too. I will need to look for Great Lent too. I'd like to share this post on my social media.Carol Applehttp://secretlifeofareader.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7495382709151625398.post-3413678414429416572016-02-27T22:48:26.618-08:002016-02-27T22:48:26.618-08:00Yes, and the piddly keypad on a phone doesn't ...Yes, and the piddly keypad on a phone doesn't help :)Carolhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06820925595506920754noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7495382709151625398.post-48356522481342688262016-02-27T08:29:48.462-08:002016-02-27T08:29:48.462-08:00It's generally hard to live out philosophies, ...It's generally hard to live out philosophies, but especially hard when you're having to swim against the tide. I love how Berry strikes out, and seems happy to meet the difficulties head on. I have still to read Jayber Crow.<br /><br />And don't you just hate autocorrect? It's those computers thinking that they're smarter than we are! :-)Cleohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13152128642971612433noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7495382709151625398.post-40238043272291695012016-02-26T15:57:37.968-08:002016-02-26T15:57:37.968-08:00Oops on my phone - your, not you're and 'm...Oops on my phone - your, not you're and 'my own life.' & Crow!! Carolhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06820925595506920754noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7495382709151625398.post-82479293364878467622016-02-26T15:55:36.433-08:002016-02-26T15:55:36.433-08:00Interesting to read Solzhenitsn's comments. I ...Interesting to read Solzhenitsn's comments. I think you're observations on the personal vs group mentality are so true! Living out our philosophies is hard work! I've been thinking of the verse in James regarding true religion & how it relates to my Jan life. Berry isn't well known here & I haven't seen anything by him in print although I listened to Jayber Criw via podcast. Carolhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06820925595506920754noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7495382709151625398.post-9217568910356513052016-02-23T09:21:31.333-08:002016-02-23T09:21:31.333-08:00I'm not familiar with deconstructivism. Do yo...I'm not familiar with deconstructivism. Do you mean he wants to deconstruct the modern philosophies or practices in this area and then rebuild them in a simpler form? I haven't read tons of Berry, but I'd say he wants to simply discard our modern ideas about ecology because they are destructive and return to a way that used to be natural, but we've lost that connection with the real/practical things (trees, woods, soil, etc.) that engage that natural desire within us. Yes, Berry's vision would be hard work, but it should be something that connects to our very nature.<br /><br />Scholars can link Christianity with social activism because the ideas of the early Christians were really quite revolutionary. The poor are raised above the rich and cared for ...... women are raised to be equal to men ........ not only did the early Christians care for each other, but they cared for people who should have been, in their society, an anathema to them. It's all really quite fascinating. But all those actions were "practical", whereas to the social activists of today, Schmemann is saying, no wait a minute, you've missed the whole point ..... while you're not necessarily wrong, you're missing an important distinction. When you go from dealing with "person", a real ("practical") concept, to dealing with "man", an abstract concept, instead of giving real help, you can only give abstract help. Which often isn't very helpful. It's only when we can bring the abstract <i>into</i> the practical or real, that we can do anything useful.Cleohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13152128642971612433noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7495382709151625398.post-49105605677825220602016-02-23T08:35:20.310-08:002016-02-23T08:35:20.310-08:00I hate to say this, but I think we sometimes defau...I hate to say this, but I think we sometimes default to a group mentality because actually dealing with "person" is simply much more work. I so agree about what you say about "living out philosophies". I'm dealing with a "math philosophy" in school right now, that is obviously flawed, but everyone is so married to the philosophy that they are completely blind to its defects. I hope that you get a chance to read Berry soon. He's written a large number of essays and it's the perfect way to get exposure to his thoughts.Cleohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13152128642971612433noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7495382709151625398.post-74118132474389312192016-02-22T22:05:38.292-08:002016-02-22T22:05:38.292-08:00I have never read Wendell Berry (hang my head in s...I have never read Wendell Berry (hang my head in shame) but now I MUST look him up. He seems to be a "deconstructivisit" from a theory perspective (I could be wrong!) and that makes me like him even more. I am very very intrigued by the comparison of Christianity with Social Activism. Most scholars usually contend that Christianity fundamentally is a socialist religion but I need to think more about how that plays into the Social Activist paradigm. I have loads of food for thought today! Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7495382709151625398.post-34808248718059679562016-02-22T20:08:49.720-08:002016-02-22T20:08:49.720-08:00I agree with Berry that it seems to be human natur...I agree with Berry that it seems to be human nature to think of things on a world scale. It's easier to blame "society" with our ills with defining who or what society actually is.<br />Also, I think many people love to live their philosophies in theory, which is why it's easier to say, "I want world peace" but can't be civil to the man who lives next door to me. I've never read Berry so I need to find a copy of his writings. Thanks for the review, Cleopatra.Sharon Wilfonghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17466621290140789056noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7495382709151625398.post-92004126974970021882016-02-22T20:05:09.318-08:002016-02-22T20:05:09.318-08:00I haven't read Jayber Crow yet but I love what...I haven't read Jayber Crow yet but I love what you say about making your "soul hum". Berry is very special and I think the structure of his words at times are very poetic, which make them pass through the mind and into the soul. He makes obvious observations, that tend to escape us, very poignant and powerful. I'm glad to see that he's not as obscure as I thought!Cleohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13152128642971612433noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7495382709151625398.post-51279229231680456712016-02-22T18:23:36.641-08:002016-02-22T18:23:36.641-08:00I can only echo iptsofacto -- God love Wendell Ber...I can only echo iptsofacto -- God love Wendell Berry. To think I was introduced to him through a recommended list of fiction for men. When I first read Jayber Berry, I'd never encounter a weaver of fiction who could make my soul hum. I've been led on by actors, put on the edge of my seat, intrigued, but -- Berry is special. And his nonfiction! My word, where to begin...he has such a sacramental vision of the world. I read him and his insight astonishes me. I like how he makes arguments that are unexpected from any quarter: for instance, in one book he argued that localism increased natural security by increasing resiliency. Stephenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15097908023032528200noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7495382709151625398.post-50913809694827425722016-02-22T16:51:17.235-08:002016-02-22T16:51:17.235-08:00For the most part I find Berry very clear and insi...For the most part I find Berry very clear and insightful, but he sometimes goes off the rails a bit. Why does working "beyond" a place lead to destruction? Does he mean physically beyond, or emotionally beyond? I just don't know. But the rest of it's awesome. I'm glad that you're another Wendell Berry-lover!Cleohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13152128642971612433noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7495382709151625398.post-83423515261805931552016-02-22T13:01:43.049-08:002016-02-22T13:01:43.049-08:00Wendell Perry, God love him! His thoughts sound so...Wendell Perry, God love him! His thoughts sound so erudite...and after reading them 3 x I still ask my self: What did that mean?" I agree with you when you say: "I didn't quite understand this point. Sorry, Wendell!" Wonderful to see him being reviewed! He will always have a special place in my heart!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com